A Kinder family of Mottram and Dinting.

Generation One.

John Kinder was born on 21 June 1795 in Mottram. He married Sarah Smith, born on 14 February 1802 in Mottram. They had eight children:
     Ralph Kinder born about 1822.
     Esther Kinder born about 1825 in Dukinfield. 1861 census - cotton weaver aged 38.
     Hugh Kinder born 2 June 1826.
     John Francis Kinder born on 30 April 1828.
     Leah Kinder born about 1832.
     Charlotte Kinder born about 1834.
     Henry Kinder born about 1836.
     Mary Kinder born about 1839 in Glossop.
At the 1861 census the family was at High Street, Glossop. John was a 66 year old Chemist & Druggist, born Denton, Cheshire, Sarah was aged 60, born Stalybridge.
Sarah died on 10 July and was buried on 13 July 1864 in Glossop Cemetery.
John Kinder died on 1 November 1864 in Glossop.

Generation Two.

Ralph Kinder was born about 1822 in Mottram. He and his wife Mary, born about 1831 in Hayfield, had three children:
     Sarah Anne Kinder born about 1860 in Glossop. Census 1861 - aged 1. 1881 census gives her age as 21.
     George Kinder born about 1862.
     Mary Kinder born about 1869 in Glossop. 1881 census gives her age as 12. Known as Pollie.
At the 1861 census the family was at 5 Arundel St, Ralph was a 40 year old Overlooker power loom, Mary aged 30. 1881 census gives their ages as 59 and 50, family at 72 St Mary's Road, Glossop.
Ralph Kinder died on 31 December 1896, buried 4 January 1897 in Glossop Cemetery. Of 60 St Mary's Road when he died.
Mary was buried on 8 January 1907 in Glossop Cemetery.

John Francis Kinder was born on 30 April 1828. He married Anne King of Holywell, Flint, born 1824, on 25 August 1856 in St Anne's, Manchester. They had five children:
     Sarah Anne Kinder born 18 March 1857 in Manchester, died on 1 June 1945 in Bradford. In the 1939 register she is at 131 Barkerend Road , Bradford, a teacher.
     John Henry Kinder born on 11 October 1858.
     William Bernard Kinder born 22 May 1860 in Brentwood, died of scarlet fever on 19 December 1868 in Salford, buried 22 December 1868 in Glossop Cemetery.
     Francis John Kinder born 14 April 1862 in Brentwood, died on 15 January 1942 in Salford, buried in St Joseph's Catholic Cem, Moston, Manchester.
     Mary Teresa Winifred Kinder born 15 April 1865 in Brentwood, died on 18 February 1945 at 91 Eccles Old Road, Salford 6, buried in St Joseph's Catholic Cem, Moston, Manchester. Her home address was 3 Gore-avenue Salford 5. Known as Polly.
Anne died on 27 December 1895. John Francis Kinder died on 26 November 1909 in Salford. Both were buried in St Joseph's Catholic Cemetery, Moston, Manchester.

Henry Kinder was born about 1836 in Glossop. He married 3 times and had two children:
Mary Kinder from his first marriage who died on 26 March 1935 and John (Jack) Kinder from his third marriage.
Henry Kinder died in 1915 in Glossop.

Generation Three.

Child of Ralph Kinder.

George Kinder was born about 1862 in Glossop. The 1881 census shows him as an 18 year old cotton weaver with his parents. He married Sarah Ann Platt, born 27 March 1861 in Glossop, daughter of James Platt and Eliza Oldham (see The Platt family of Glossop), on 25 December 1883 at Holy Trinity, Dinting. They had three children:
     Joseph Platt Kinder born on 12 January 1885.
     Eliza Kinder born in 1892.
     Ralph Kinder born in 1898 in Glossop. The 1911 census index shows him aged 13, living with Joe and he is also listed at 5 Braithwaite Street North Shore Blackpool. He is described as a journeyman painter in his father's probate record.
George, aged 29, and Sarah, aged 30, are listed in the 1891 census at 198 High Street West. They are still there in 1901. Whilst they were living in Blackpool, Sarah had a guest house at 5 Bute Avenue (off Dickson Road), next door to her sister in law Alice's guest house. In the 1911 census George said he was aged 49, a Grocer Assistant at 5 Braithwaite Street, North Shore, Blackpool (though he gave his address as High Street West, Glossop). Braithwaite Street is round the corner from Bute Avenue. He was a Glossop Councillor, initially for 15 years and then for a shorter time after returning to Glossop from living in Blackpool.
Sarah Ann died on 6 December and was buried on 11 December 1917 in Glossop Cemetery.
George Kinder of 236 High-street West Glossop died on 13 September and was buried on 16 September 1933 in Glossop Cemetery.

Child of John Francis Kinder.

John Henry Kinder was born on 11 October 1858 in Brentwood. He married Maude Mary Cassidy, born 11861, on 19 August 1884 in St Patrick's, Birmingham and they had seven children:
     John Francis Neot Kinder born 11 June 1885 in Liskeard, Cornwall, died in 1951 in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada.
     Michael Aloysius Kinder born in Liskeard, died in infancy in Liskeard.
     Leo Kinder born on 4 March 1888.
     Agatha May Kinder born on 18 December 1890 in Salford, died on 25 April 1941 in Stockport, buried in St Mary's Catholic Cemetery, Wardley, Swinton.
     Bernard Anselm Kinder born on 24 December 1892 in Salford, died on 19 April 1967 in Salford, buried in St Mary's Catholic Cemetery, Wardley, Swinton.
     Helen Maristella Kinder born on 16 July 1895 in Salford, died on 27 June 1974 in Barnoldswick.
     Maude Mary Teresa Winifred Kinder born on 23 March 1898 in Salford, died on 1 November 1983 in London.
John Henry Kinder died on 31 March 1924 in Warrington, buried in St Joseph's Catholic Cemetery, Moston, Manchester.
Maude died on 10 March 1937 and was buried in St Mary's Catholic Cemetery, Wardley, Swinton

Generation Four.

Children of George Kinder.

Joseph Platt Kinder was born on 12 January and baptised on 15 February 1885 in Holy Trinity Church, Dinting Vale. The 1901 census shows him as a 16, Messenger for the Post Office but he took over the family business at 198 High Street West, Glossop, when his parents moved to Blackpool; the 1911 census index shows him there aged 26, Grocer & Draper. He later decided to travel, eventually settling in London as landlord of the Round House, 83 & 85 Wardour Street, St James, Westminster (the 1938 Post Office Directory lists him there) and the the Holloway Castle, 392 Camden Road N7 (where he is listed by the 1944 PO Directory). His wife Susanna (born about 1874) died on 17 April 1946 at the Holloway Castle and was buried on 24 April 1946 in Glossop Cemetery. Their home address was 53 Trinity-avenue Bush Hill-road Enfield Middlesex. Joseph Platt Kinder died at The Lake Hospital Ashton-under-Lyne, aged 68, on 25 March and was buried on 30 March 1953 in Glossop Cemetery. He was living at 33 Church-street Tintwistle at the time.

The Watchman column in the Glossop Chronicle of 16 September 1938 included an article entitled "Joe from the North".

I got a lot of pleasure out of my holidays this year for I visited many places and met many interesting: people. A couple of Glossop lads I met in the West End of London were Julian Mitchell (the great character actor whom most Glossopians have seen on the screen) and Joseph Platt Kinder, elder son of the late Councillor George Kinder. Joe Is a breezy lad, whom Soho seems to have taken to its heart. He has wandered around quite a lot, having included Australia in his wanderings, but he soon tired of colonial life and came back to his native Glossop. The wanderlust however, was too strong, and soon he was off again to distant places. He had business deals with the late Jimmy White, but now appears to have settled down as host at the Round House, Wardour Street.

"Joe from the north" he is affectionately called, and his hotel is the rendezvous of stage and sporting stars. He introduced me to many people who are often in the news. One very interesting young man I met was brother of the famous Houston sisters, who is now a well-known novelist. Journalists, Press photographers, and Press cartoonists frequent Joe's house; indeed, it is the gathering ground for those who lead a more or less Bohemian life.

Joe took me to the roof of his hotel, showing me London by night, and pointed out to me a post office, the architect for which was a Hollingworth man of that name, and he also told me that some years ago in that post office, there worked a young lady who became wife of a recent tenant of the Norfolk Arms Hotel at Glossop.

Eliza Kinder was born in 1892 in Glossop. In the 1911 census she is aged 19, a boarding house keeper at 5 Braithwaite Street, North Shore, Blackpool. She married Albert Chadwick in 1918 in Glossop and they had a daughter, Sarah Anne Chadwick (known as Sadie) in 1922. She was a GPO telephonist in Manchester when she married John Moran (born 1920) in 1942 at All Saints RC Church, Glossop. John died later the same year. A Lance Bombardier, he was killed in a training accident when the tank in which he was receiving instruction overturned. Sadie married James Hall, a sailor, on 31 July 1944 at Glossop parish church.
Eliza died, age 33, on 1 April and was buried on 5 April 1927 in Glossop Cemetery.

Child of John Henry Kinder.

Leo Kinder was born on 4 March 1888 in Liskeard. He married Marie Josephine Darby, born 1901 on 14 September 1925 in St Luke's, Irlam-o'-th'-Height, Salford.
Leo died on 29 June 1968 and Marie on 3 November 1989. Both died in Blackpool, in Blackpool and were buried in St Mary's Catholic Cem, Wardley, Swinton.

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