A Hyde family of Hayfield.
In the middle of the 19th century a number of scams started in America, supposedly aimed at claiming shares in estates but, in reality, a way of the promoters making money from those they entrapped because the estates did not exist. One of those scams involved John Hyde of Long Lee, Rowarth, who died intestate on 20 August 1703 and left issue one son and one daughter (Sarah Nicholson & John Hyde) and John Hyde of the Merchant Taylor's Company, London, who left money for the upkeep of a school in Hayfield Church in his will dated 8th September 1604.
It appears that John Hyde of Hayfield & Glossop, who was born on 26 July 1844, plus his father John and great uncle Aaron, fell victim to that scam. They spent a great deal of time (and possibly money) in trying to prove descent from the two John Hydes mentioned above. John Hyde (b 26 July 1844) put together three handwritten books of “evidence”, probably some time between 1895 and 1915. He was living at Bennett's Court, Shrewsbury Street, Glossop at the time. To a large extent the books contain repeated copies of handwritten notes and newspaper cuttings.
The books start out by claiming that a Joseph Hyde had five children: James (who the notes claim “disappeared through Thomas Hobbes “roguing him out of their money””), Louisa, Lydia, Mary Ann and Thomas. The only one of these people whose existence can be verified is Thomas, though there is no evidence to link him to his supposed father, Joseph.
We know, from the parish register that Thomas was buried on 14 March 1786. His will (probate 24 July 1789) tells us that he was a tailor of Bank end in Kinder and that he and his wife, Dorothy, had six children: John, Thomas, Edward, Ellen, Hannah and Dorothy Hyde. An MI tells us he died, aged 70, on 10 March and was buried in the old family vault under Hayfield Church.
Generation One.
The books claim that Thomas Hyde the son was a joiner of High Needham and he had four children: Aaron Hyde, born about 1782, Moses Hyde, Joseph Hyde (the notebooks say he was a joiner with his father at Threeneedham, Back Chinley) and James Hyde, born about 1797.
The facts that can be gleaned from available records are documented below.
Generation Two.
Aaron Hyde was born about 1782 in Hayfield. No baptism can be found for an Aaron son of Thomas but there is the baptism, on 2 March 1783 of Aaron in which the father is named as John Hyde. He married Esther Waterhouse (born about 1789) on 18 December 1809 in Glossop Parish Church. They had three children:
Mary Hyde born 13 November and baptised 16 December 1810 in Hayfield Methodist Chapel.
Aaron Hyde born 18 November and baptised 12 December 1813 in Hayfield Methodist Chapel. He was buried on 31 May 1832 in Hayfield.
William Hyde born 26 August and baptised 24 September 1815 in Hayfield Methodist Chapel. He was buried on 18 April 1828 in Hayfield.
Esther Waterhouse was buried on 30 April 1817 in Hayfield.
Aaron married Maria Briddock on 25 March 1827 in Castleton. Maria was buried on 24 March 1828 in Hayfield. She had a daughter, Hannah Briddock, who had been baptised on 12 May 1823 in Hope. Hannah married a John Walker in 1854.
At the time of the 1841 census Aaron was living at Fishers Lane, Hayfield (age given as 55). At the time of the 1851 census he was widowed, living in Hannah Briddock's house at Nelsons Place, Hayfield, a Cotton cord maker aged 68. At the time of the 1861 census, he was widowed (described as father in law) in the house of John & Hannah Walker at Nelsons Place, Hayfield, Formerly Cotton cord maker aged 79.
Aaron Hyde died, aged 82, on 4 September and was buried on 8 September 1864 in Saint Matthew's Church Hayfield.
James Hyde was born about 1797 in Hayfield and baptised on 24 July 1798 in Hayfield. He married Priscilla Wild, born about 1791 and they had three children:
John Hyde born 11 September 1816.
Mary Hyde born about 1819, died in Marple. At the 1841 census she was living in Hayfield in her father's house, age given as 20. At the 1851 census living in Freetown in her father's house, age 32, Weaver (cotton). She married Joseph Dawson.
Robert Hyde born about 1823.
Priscilla died on 16 June 1825 aged 34.
At the 1841 census James was living in Hayfield, age given as 45. At the 1851 census he was living in Freetown, Whitfield, age 54, Piecer (cotton). He was described as a cotton spinner in the register entry for Robert's marriage in 1852.
James married Mary Stafford before the 1841 census in which her age was given as 40 (in the 1851 her age was 52). James and Mary had two children:
Esther Hyde, born 1841. 1841 census living in Hayfield with her parents, age given as 0. 1851 census living in Freetown with her parents, age 9, Heald bottomer.
Ruth Hyde born about 1845. 1851 census living in Freetown with her parents, age 6, scholar.
Mary died in her 65th year on 19 December and was buried on 23 December 1863 in Hayfield Church.
James Hyde (of Wood Street, Whitfield) died on 10 February and was buried on 22 February 1871 in Hayfield Cemetery, aged 74.
Generation Three.
Children of James Hyde.
John Hyde was born on 11 September 1816. He married Elizabeth Chapman (born 5 April 1820 in Chapel en le Frith) on 21 September 1840 in The Old Church (Cathedral) Manchester. They had seven children:
James Hyde born 14 July 1841 in Hayfield. 1851 census living with his parents, 9 year old Tenter. 1861 census living with his parents, age recorded as 12, Cotton Weaver. Lived at Hope St, Ardwick, Manchester.
John Hyde born 26 July 1844.
Joseph Hyde born 6 May 1847 in Hayfield, died 21 June 1847 aged 6 weeks and 3 days.
William Hyde born 2 July 1851 in Hayfield. 1861 census living with his parents, age recorded as 2. 1871 census living with his mother at Top of the Town, Hayfield, age 19, Labourer. He married Harriett Barr (born about 1842) on 22 Mar 1874 in Portwood Parish Church. Harriett
died on 19 October 1895 ged 53. John died 13 May 1897, aged 45 years, of 15 Tonge Street, Ardwick buried 17 May 1897. Both were buried in Philip Park Cemetery.
Robert Hyde born 19 June 1853 in Hayfield, died 25 Apr il1854 aged 11 months and 2 days.
George Hyde born 1 June 1855 in Hayfield. 1861 census living with his parents, aged 5. 1871 census living with his mother at Top of the Town, Hayfield, age 16, Labourer. 1881 census living with his mother at Top of the Town, Hayfield, age 25, Labourer calico printing. 1891
census living with his mother at Stones Head, Hayfield, age 35, Labourer At Calico Print Works.
Mary Ann Hyde born 15 May 1858 in Hayfield, died 15 January 1859 aged 8 months.
1841 census living in Hayfield with James, John's age given as 24. Elizabeth's 20.
1851 census at Cock Robin Row, Hayfield Phoside, John a 34 year old Power Loom Weaver Of Cotton, Elizabeth a 30 year old Power Loom Weaver Of Cotton.
1861 census at Top of Town, Hayfield, John a 44 year old Calico Block Printer, Elizabeth: a 40 year old Cotton Weaver.
John Hyde died on 16 October and was buried on 18 October 1862 in St Matthews Church Hayfield aged 46.
Elizabeth in the 1871 census was living at Top of Town, Hayfield, age 50; in the 1881 census was living at Top of Town, Hayfield, age 60, Housekeeper; in the 1891 census was living at Stones Head, Hayfield, age 71.
Elizabeth died on 27 October and was buried on 1 Nov 1899 in St Matthews Church Hayfield in her 80th year.
Robert Hyde was born about 1823. 1841 census living in Hayfield in his father's house, age given as 18. 1851 census there is a Robert Hyde lodging with a Robert Wood at Top Street Hill, Great Hamlet, described as a 24 year old Ag Lab.
He married Martha Gee (born in Hayfield, daughter of George Gee) on 23 February 1852 in Glossop Parish Church. They had a daughter, Priscilla Hyde, born about 1857.
1861 census living in Lucas Terrace, Hayfield, Robert aged 36, labourer; Martha aged 41.
1871 census living in Lucas Terrace, Hayfield, Robert aged 50, labourer in printworks; Martha aged 52.
1881 census Robert was living in Lucas Terrace, Hayfield, widower age 59, Labourer At Calico Print Works. 1891 census he was still living in Lucas Terrace, Hayfield, widower age 68, Labourer Goods Yard Railway Station.
Generation Four.
Child of John Hyde.
John Hyde was born 26 July 1844 in Hayfield. 1851 census living with his parents, 6 year old Scholar. 1861 census living with his parents, 16 year old Cotton Weaver. He married Mary Fielding, baptised 12 Jul 1840 in Glossop Parish Church, daughter of William Fielding and Sarah Stafford (see Descendants of John Fielding of Whitfield 1674) on 24 Jan 1869 in Whitfield St James. They had four known children:
Sarah Hannah Hyde born 1870.
Elizabeth Hyde born 1871, buried 13 September 1876 in Glossop Cemetery. aged 4
Ruth Hyde born about 1876 in Glossop, died June 1913 aged 37, buried 17 June 1913 in Glossop Cemetery. 1881 census living with her parents, age 5, scholar. 1891 census living with her mother, age 15, cotton twister. 1901 census living with her mother, age 25, cotton mill twister. 1911 census, living with Charles, age 35, Twister.
Charles Hyde born 18 Aug 1879.
1871 census living at Edward Street, Glossop, John age 26; Mary age 30.
1881 census living at 4 Hadfield Street, Glossop, John age 36, labourer; Mary age 40.
1891 census: John living at Bennet's Yard, Shrewsbury Street, Glossop, married, age 46, cotton weaver; Mary living at Nursery Brow, Glossop, described as a widow age 50.
1901 census: John living at 4 Bennet's Yard, Shrewsbury Street, Glossop, described as a widower age 56, weaver cotton mill; Mary living at 47 Queen Street, Glossop, married age 60.
Mary was buried on 6 August 1906 in Glossop cemetery age 66.
At the 1911 census John was living at 6 Green Square St Marys Road, Glossop, widower age 66, Lamp lighter. He was living in Princess Street, Glossop, when Ruth died in 1913.
Possibly died in the second quarter of 1937 (death of John Hyde aged 92 registered Glossop Vol 7B Page 897).
Child of Robert Hyde.
Priscilla Hyde born about 1857 in Hayfield. 1861 census living with her parents, age 3, scholar. 1871 census living with her parents, age 14, cotton weaver. She married George Tyer, born about 1858 in Manchester, and they had a daughter, Martha Tyer, born about 1880 in Hayfield (1881 census aged 1).
At the 1881 census Priscilla (age 23, cotton weaver) and George (age 23, Labourer At Calico Print Works) were living in Robert's house.
Generation Five.
Children of John Hyde.
Sarah Hannah Hyde was born on 6 June 1870 in Glossop. 1871 census living with her parents, age 0. 1881 census living with her parents, age 10, cotton drawer in. 1891 census living with her mother, age 20, cotton twister. 1901 census living with her mother, age 30, cotton mill twister. She married William Phillips (born on 7 July 1873 in Newport, Shropshire) on 13 November 1905 in Hayfield. They had three children:
Elizabeth Phillips born on 31 August 1906 in Glossop. 1911 census aged 4. She was always known as Betty and never married.
Hilda Phillips born on 6 December 1907 in Glossop and baptised on 12 February 1908 at St James' Whitfield. 1911 census aged 3. She married and had one child.
Ada Phillips born on 17 January 1910 in Charlesworth and baptised on 27 February 1910 at Holy Trinity, Dinting Vale. 1911 census aged 1. She married and had two children.
They were living at 87 Pikes Lane when Elizabeth and Hilda were baptised and at 34 Cottage Lane when Ada was baptised.
At the 1911 census they were living at 34 Cottage Lane, Gamesley; William age 37, Railway signalman; Sarah age 40, cotton mill twister.
In the 1939 register William and Sarah are living at 7 Littlefield Lane, Grimsby, William a retired Railway Passenger Foreman. Elizabeth, a shop assistant, was living with them.
Charles Hyde was born on 18 August 1879 in Glossop. 1881 census living with his parents, age 1. 1891 census living with his mother, age 11, scholar. 1901 census living with his mother, age 21, Cotton Spinner's Piecer. 1911 census living at 8 Slatelands Avenue, Glossop, age 31, Operative Cotton Spinner. He married Elizabeth Ellen Higginbottom (born 21 Aug 1879) in 1911 in Glossop. They had a daughter, Marian Hyde, born 23 March 1913. She married Ivan Rolley, born 13 September and baptised 18 October 1911 in St Andrews Hadfield (son of John James Rolley and Jane Ann Beard) in 1939. Ivan died 7 November and was buried 12 November 1974 at Top Chapel. Marian died on 1 May 1993 in Tameside Hospital and was buried on 10 May 1993 at Top Chapel.
The 1939 Register shows Charles (Operative Cotton Spinner Unemployed) and Elizabeth (Cotton Doubler Rope Works Unemployed) living at 22 Marple Road , Chapel-en-le-Frith.
Elizabeth died on 8 January and was buried on 13 January 1954 at Top Chapel, Charlesworth.
Charles Hyde died on 28 April and was buried on 1 May 1958 at Top Chapel, Charlesworth.
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